Maybe her eyes WERE opened, and she probably saw the nice rack she had and wasn't ashamed at all. She wanted Adam to see how hot she was, so she made him eat the apple/fruit. Myth...BUSTED.
Haulin Oats
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Why was Eve's eyes not open when she ate from the tree?
by puppie069 ineve was the first to commit the sin regarding the tree?
why wasn't she the example of gods judgement?
why was adam brought into the sin.. if she ate first, why wasn't there judgement at that point?
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Jehovah's Witnesses are not a CULT ...
by Fatfreek inaccording to 30% of the following definitions.
that leaves 70% that show quite the opposite.
so -- are they a cult?
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Haulin Oats
I seem to recall the WT years back about whether or not witnesses are a cult. There was some dark, demonic figure on an article page along with piss-poor definitions of a cult. Then of course, flash-forward to pages of happy, cheery witlesses going door to door. The reader was then left to decide after reading that they clearly weren't a cult.
You won't find a single corporation, business, company who would purposely put themselves in a negative light by defining themselves as a cult, pyramid scheme, etc. Thats like Ford admitting the Pinto was a shit car (which it was). The sales brochure just happened to gloss-over the poor engineering design of the fuel tank placement and instead laid a nice fresh red herring down instead to draw the readers attention to its "compact, efficient" use of storage and "economy" gas mileage.
Therefore, you need third-party groups to offer an unbiased opine about car X, brand Y, or religion Z. Which is why we have things like Consumer reports, Amazon book reviews, etc.
Any religion/company/whatever that hands out a biased, one-sided report about the definition of their existence and then expects the public to adhere to that definition....come on.
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A Message for All Those Still in the WT Organization
by botchtowersociety inthis tidbit of good advice was found on another jw forum.. a message for all those still in the wt organization.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w_szj6m-km.
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Haulin Oats
Yay, ends on John Lithgow! Great actor. You heard him folks..."get the fuck outta there".
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Could you eat breakfast after watching this at Bethel?
by Dogpatch inthis is a partial video of the morning breakfast table in brooklyn bethel in the late 80s, with lyman swingle hosting... the governing body member who at first tried to shelter ray franz from disfellowshipping, but then within a year or two his spirit was broken and he was a bitter man.. randy (i was there and it was death-dealing, like the death eaters from harry potter!).
address of windows media file if you don't see anything:.
http://www.randytv.com/swinglebreakfast.wmv.
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Haulin Oats
"Now little boys (and a few girls), be sure to wash your hands after you touch your pee-pee! God wants you to be clean and healthy and set a good example." Somehow God could see the future and figured we'd all still be wiping our asses with our left hands well into the 20th century? How patronizing.
This is complete crap. My parents tried to get me to set a goal of Bethel. Glad I told them I didn't want to.
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Did you fake underlining the WT?
by shepherd ini read on another topic " i remember when i used to carry microphones years ago in the jw cult- only about 30 % had their wt's pre-studied, the rest just wing it i truly believe" and it reminded me that people will assume you are not familiar with the material if you have not underlined, and that there will always be those who observe the lack of ink and consider you must be unprepared (and so 'weaker' than them).. many times i used to fake prestudy just for that reason.
its easy to do, underline a random sentence or 2 in each paragraph or the sited scripture.
you can wizz through an entire article in 3 minutes....did anyone else do that?.
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Haulin Oats
@cantleave... My best friend growing up did that. He had dyslexia and usually had to be the sunday WT reader. He never underlined because it messed him up when he read the paragraphs, just circled every Scripture. We used to joke around that we both hated studying and he only did that to fool his parents. He's an elder now.
Im glad my parents never made me study on my own. They had the reasoning that if they didn't have time to study, then why force the kids to make time to do it also?
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Rutherford 1942 "Don't have kids till after Armagedon...Watchtower 2008 same advice!! Sick!
by Witness 007 ini was shocked to read in the "witnesses only" study watchtower this stupid rutherford policy was still in place, compare.. rutherfords last book "children" {ironic title} 1942 - page 281 "wait until after armagedon to bring children into the world...it is only afew years...until armagedon...those with infants will have greater woe...it will be a far greater difficulty to care for them during the tribulation...".
so if you were 20 years old in 1942 and waited......till 2011.....do the math.. wachtower 2008 april 15 p.19 "heading: "single and childless for a noble purpose.
" ...numerous couples have decided to remain childless...to remain free to serve jehovah...putting kingdom interests above some of the privledges that go with marriage...jehovah will not forget...there will be a great tribulation...it will be a difficult time for us adults and children alike...".
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Haulin Oats
Hopscotch brings up a good point.
Granted the people having children while remaining JW's number in the millions, most are window-washers and janitors...hardly a tidy sum to live on during their golden years. However those with no children have fewer mouths to feed, hence more money in the coffers once the Reaper comes for them.
I doubt when people of our generation get old, there will be any money left in their names...the economy will tank and costs of living will go up. I wonder what "New Light" will result from this.
Back to the OP, yes its pretty sad they keep regurgitating the same BS every couple years just to keep people on the edge. And like I've said on other posts, they will conveniently erase any back-copies of publications so they can keep on producing new light. Eventually this paper printing thing will go by the wayside and all publications will be digital.
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Jethro Tull / Ian Anderson - Your Favorite Songs ? You-tubes Welcome !
by flipper in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws6fstg99au&feature=related.
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Haulin Oats
My God live from Isle of Wight. Lyrically the best song ever, it should even be the theme song for this board.
I'm going to see Mr. Anderson next weekend in Oregon.
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I remember an illustration "something" like this in a talk one time LOL
by therevealer inmy wife stood before me with some items in front of her.
without a word, she emptied a large jar of mayonnaise and proceeded to fill the empty jar with rocks right to the top, rocks about 2" diameter, then asked me if the jar was full.
i agreed that it was.. she then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them in to the jar.
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Haulin Oats
Our CO used ping pong balls and dry beans. Lols @ "grabbing a banana to satisfy a fleshly desire". Anyone else see the perversion in this?
The one I heard years ago that always made me call "bullshit" was this:
The pony express needed to hire a man to drive a horse and wagon the last 10 mile stretch on a delivery route to the pony express mail building. This building is located at the end of a road that comes down a hill and across a wooden bridge with no sides. (the setting of this nonsense tale is set in the late 1800's). The interview guy interviews 3 men. He asks the first man "why should we hire you?" 1st man says "see that hill? I can ride a horse and buggy down the hill full-speed and come across the bridge with the edge of my wagon wheels right at the edge of the bridge without wrecking the buggy". The interview guy says "wow, i'll keep you in mind". 2nd guy says "see that hill? I can drive my buggy full-speed down the hill and across the bridge with my wagon wheels half way off the bridge without wrecking the buggy". Interview guy says "holy wow, you have to be the best man for the job." 3rd guy says "see that hill? I can operate my buggy at a safe speed and I keep it in the middle of the bridge". 3rd guy gets the job.
Its some stupid story about how we need to stay in the middle of the cong. and not try to get on the edge of serving god. Come on. Its been a long time since I'd heard it, but its still the dumbest story i've ever heard.
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Celebrating my sons 11th birthday on Sunday
by Pams girl ini cant wait!
ive bought him lots of pressies, we collect his cake on saturday, and are having a big family gathering.. i havent actively celebrated his birthday for the 6 years i was studying.
i need to make it up to him.
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Haulin Oats
Tell him "Happy Birthday" from Mr Oats. I'm proud of you, Paula.
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"Cemetery Witnessing" on Memorial Day
by Morbidzbaby ini've been wondering if this is just something that's done in my area, or if people do it all over.. every year on memorial day, a lot of people meet for fs and then when they break into groups, they all discuss which cemeteries they are going to "work".
every major cemetery in the city is divvied up.
the idea is, they take a stack of small tracts (usually the what hope for dead loved ones) and they basically park the car in the cemetery and walk around handing them out to the mourners.
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Haulin Oats
Well to me, it lacks dignity and shows disrespect for the greiving person. Why should JW's wait until one day out of the year to attempt to console those in a cemetary? Why aren't cemetaries hit during the rest of the year? If JW's truly cared about how people felt, why do they forbid the funeral attendance of a deceased DF'd person? Aren't ALL sins paid for once that person dies?
Boy wouldn't that be awkward...."hey id like to leave this tract with you while you greive for your dead loved one". And the person then replies "Oh, he was a DF'd person that fought in a war who DIED for you so you can have the freedom to practice your religion".